Discussion: Patch Notes: April 7th, 2016

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Senshu, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. poinl

    poinl I need me some PIE!

    Still gives it mobility. Which might help with the 2-4 range. But i'm not sure if that was intentional.
  2. Senshu

    Senshu Administrator Octopi

    Blood Ball was addressed with the release of Spirits Beyond, and yes, Long Fuse Bomb has been fixed.
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  3. Xirone

    Xirone I need me some PIE!

    I will miss the alt damage the Valkyrie brought to beast decks but the change is definitely a net positive.
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  4. Xirone

    Xirone I need me some PIE!

    Scorched Earth got buffed but it looks like Cracked Egg might have been missed?
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  5. ChiaoLung

    ChiaoLung I need me some PIE!

    No pun intended? :D
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  6. JellyBerry

    JellyBerry Forum Royalty

    To be fair these abilities show in upgrade paths that intend to have the same line of stats buffed or are otherwise fillers due to them not being the better option, though. However I too don't understand what is intended to be done anymore. They just got a 70 Nora ranged unit with surge and and grant aura which tops at 60 hp... It's fine and all but isn't that what we didn't want after these patches? I recall having a similar reaction to Jakei Shaman when they buffed her. Several Lonx are now in that cost range (lower 70s) or below without accounting for camaraderie as well so they have gotten considerably cheaper which is something to keep an eye on in my opinion, at least.

    Lonx chieftain shouldn't have lost relocate ally and pull/gravity on a min. range 5 makes little sense. I can see a justification for aid defense since it's far too strong on ranged, but the extra changes were uncalled for.

    Either way, no laptop to play the game and check things myself but newer releases and champion changes as of lately are giving me mixed feelings in terms of intended direction and previously stated plans.

    Glad to see change nevertheless.
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  7. IronStylus

    IronStylus I need me some PIE!

    *Haunting Spirit*

    * Default Cost to 33

    *Matriarch Sarinda*

    * Default Cost to 51

    thats interesting and worth mentioning
  8. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    And no more Soul Channeling.
  9. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    Yeti Spirit will be the new spirit to hate.
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  10. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    Haunting grip now ultimate suck
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  11. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    Thank goodness for Kartch changes. Good job Sok and friends.
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  12. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Huh, so this whole Death Carrionling is really weird? So here's how it works: Creeping Pustule, Propagate (even though the text wasn't updated), and Death Spawn all produces Death Carrionlings. These are identical to other Carrionlings, except they have Surge: Carrionling rather than Surge: Worm. Oddly enough, because Death Carrionlings aren't actually Carrionlings, they don't Surge off each other, and all have 2-3 DMG. The only ways to generate proper Carrionlings are to 1) deploy the real Carrionling, 2) Swarm Carrionlings from either the Colossus or Death Carrionlings. That latter trigger is incredibly difficult because these Death Carrionlings often don't have enough DMG to even breach a champion's DEF.

    Ultimately, this translates to what were the old Carrionlings not have Surge anymore. It's an ugly way to handle that kind of design decision. It would be cleaner just to take Surge in any form off the Death Carrionlings if that's the plan, and then make all summoned Carrionlings into Death Carrionlings (i.e. change the ones from Swarm, update Propagate text).

    As it is worms will undoubtedly roll with it, but it is a bit grimy.
  13. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    Some thoughts:

    Carrionling - Common is 37 nora
    Carrionling - Limited is 28 nora
    Death Carrionling - Has surge Carrionling NOT surge worm (or was this an intentional change to make death carrionlings less potent and rely on aura's instead?)

    Haunting spirit change- I'm fine with the cost reduction but This totally gutz (with a Z) haunting grip which has been suck for a LONG time now due to the nerfs to the spell and then on top of that nerfs to the champion.

    For comparision Worms have snuff witch costs 30 nora with a potential very likely refund of 15 nora that gives a champ liability, lumbering, and pariah for 6 turns.
    Haunting Grip of Suck is 40 nora to summon ghost champ with no upgrades (no damage/depression) WITH short lived and causes the enemy champ to lumber for 3 turns.

    Dat spell be shoebox if I've ever saw one. Even at 20 nora this would still suck more. Let you be the judge.
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  14. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Fixing Carrionling to be Surge: Worm.
  15. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Is the Death Carrionling deal for clarity between summons and reals?
  16. Wraith

    Wraith Administrator Octopi

    Look again. :D
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  17. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

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  18. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

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  19. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Freakin' hotfix wizardry, alright, neato.
  20. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Who the hell is Korsien?
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