I'd like to focus some thoughts on suggestions/brainstorming ideas on how to salvage the creep theme. The main issues with the Creep/Creep Master Theme: a) The Shrine Deployment Zone (SDZ) growth is currently easier to destroy then grow leaving it difficult to actually have an impact on play and leaving it boring/frustrating to play as you try to grow the zone. b) Creep is tied to champs with the creep ability meaning battle group creation for the theme is extremely restricted or at least appears very much so. Currently it is relegated to 7 champs. For every champ without creep you tip the scales into a net loss for the SDZ growth. c) The current set of champs with creep/master do not have synergetic abilities based on the zone or helping increase the zone growth. For example 2 out of the 7 creeps don't even have basic attacks meaning they can't trigger that net growth. d) Transfiguration destroys the extended creep zone to 0. It is possible to increase the zone when in avatar mode by netting a kill with creep/master. However with deployment you'll down nora every turn from there on in. e) There is no grand end game. The growth of the SDZ basically results in you deploying and sniping enemy unguarded fonts and avoiding all direct contact with enemy champs since they pretty much don't synergize with each other very much. Summary: Creep in its current theme results in attrition style matches where your goal is to nora attrition your enemy by growing the zone and contesting enemy fonts. Saving the theme will require rethinking how and why creeps need to be played and for it to be interesting. Current Proposal: #1: Creep/Creep Master/Ravenous Torrent Creep: When this unit is deployed or destroys an enemy champion expand your Shrine Deployment Zone by 1 (this does not effect the font bonus). When a friendly unit is deployed at your Shrine Deployment zone it gains Font Ignorance for two turns and if it was a non-mutant reduce your Shrine Zone by 1 to a minimum of 3. Creep Master: This unit has creep. All mutants within your Shrine Deployment Zone have Siege and +2 def. Ravenous Torrent renamed Chuck: Carrionling: This Champion makes a ranged physical attack against target champion within 2-5 spaces. A summoned Carrionling is deployed adjacent to the target if it is successfully damaged. #2: Champs - small adjustments (mostly race and creep adds) Blood Fiend renamed Creeping Gore - Race: Mutant Vampyre Undead add Creep Base Dusk Creeper Race: Undead Mutant Rotmaw Creeper - add Boon of the Undead Base Mindthief Creeper - Race: Mutant Replace Adaptation with Attack: psychic Polluted Martyr - Race: Undead Dragon Mutant BoneShredder - Race: Undead Mutant Skeleton Add Creep base Blinking Creeper - Race: Mutant Remove Creep from base (it has creep master) #3: Champs Bloodworm renamed Blood Creeper - Race: Undead Vampyre Mutant Add Surge Mutant to Path 1 Replace Aggressive with Bind in path 2 Add Creep Base Phantasmal Creeper - Race: Mutant Path 2 (Encroached, Shrine Defender, Nora Leech) Add Attack Magic base #4: Champs Putrid Creeper - Race: Mutant Path 1 (Damage Shield Acid 1, 2, 3) Path 2 (Tough 1, 2 , 3) Base: Attack Acid, Creep Master, Acid Acolyte Eye Of Serkan - Race: Undead Mutant Path 1 (Soul Vitality, Soul Channeling, Sibling) Path 2 (Frightful Blows, Soul Feast, Surge Mutant) Base: Attack: Psychic, Creep Master, Boon of the undead, Detection 3 Creeper Queen- Race: Mutant Path 1 (Decapitating Blow, Swoop, Sting) Path 2 (Chuck:Carrionling, Provision, Propagate: Carrionling) Base: Attack Physical, Death Spawn: Carrionling, Flight, Creep #5: Champs Carrion Colossus renamed Carrion Creeper- Race: Mutant Class: Brute Path 1 (Disease Aura 3, Surge: Mutant, Hunter: Giant) Path 2 (Vivify, Reinforce, Swarm: Carrionling) Base: Death Spawn Carrionling, Propagate Carrionling, Chuck: Carrionling, Creep, Attack: Physical, Titan Carrionling LE/Common -Race: mutant Path 1 (creep) Path 2 (Encroached) Base: Eatable, Swarm: Carrionling, Surge: Mutant, Disease Eater, attack: acid (please note that summoned creeps should not have any upgrades) Mist of the Dead renamed Creeper Colony 35 nora 21 hp Creep & Propogate: Carrionling. Mutants within 5 spaces of this have Shrine link.